Why do people hate voyager




















Log in or Sign up. The Trek BBS. Joined: Nov 13, Location: The 's. All you Voyager people should keep in mind that this thread is written to address a specific group of people: Voyager for people who hate Voyager If you are a Voyager fan, then you will be unhappy with this thread.

Because you're a Trek fan, you've probably already seen an episode of Voyager here and there, and you probably didn't like what you saw. After all, that's why you didn't watch the entire run, right? Oh, I know there are some of you out there who actually like Voyager go figure this guide isn't for you. This guide is for people who: - Find Neelix to be annoying - Think Chakotay is a meathead - Hear chicken clucking whenever Janeway speaks - fast forward through Seven of Nine and the Doctor's unfortunate bouts with singing If you find yourself agreeing to those 4 basic tenets, you've come to the right place!

This guide lists episodes in the order of their airing, and not in any order of preference. So here we go, Star Trek Voyager, with most of the suck removed! Season 1: 1. Caretaker This is the pilot, so you're probably stuck watching it either way. It's somewhat entertaining, although you'll probably wonder why Janeway purposefully strands her crew in the Delta Quadrant while violating the prime directive. Oh well! There are explosions!

Parallax Time travel paradox story. Ultimately forgettable, but not atrocious. Time and Again Reset button episode. No reason to watch it. Phage Vidiians beam Neelix's lungs out of his body.

Ridiculous use of hologram technology here, but the episode isn't horrible. The Cloud The crew fiddles around with a space amoeba. Not bad, not good.. Watchable, but not good. Eye of the Needle The crew finds a wormhole too small to fly through. One of the best of Season 1.

Watchable, mildly interesting. Ex Post Facto Tom Paris accused of murder. Does anyone in the universe believe he is guilty? Easily skippible. Watchable, but boring.

Emanations Harry Kim's first foray into being Voyager's official "displaced out of reality" guy. Watchable, somewhat entertaining. It's like a mediocre TNG episode. Chakotay gets a little annoying. Prime Factors Tuvok's illogical behavior is, for the first time, a plot point..

A completely forgettable episode. Watchable but boring. This particular episode is alright. Cathexis Chakotay is a ghost. If you're like me, that pretty much seals it into the "pass" category. Faces Torres gets a lot of stories about her Klingon half vs her human half through out Voyager.

This is the best one of them all. Watchable, and interesting. Jetrel An excellent performan by James Sloyan makes this one watchable, despite being a Neelix episode.

This is the Manhattan Project with alien juice hosed on. Season Two: 1. The 37's Apparently aliens love to kidnap humans from Earth and drop them on far flung planets. Heck, it happened to Amelia Earhart! The next thing you know they'll kidnap cowboys! Watchable, but just barely. Easily skippable if needed. Initiations 43 minutes of "Is that Nog? I bet that's Nog.

Yeah, it's got to be Nog. Unfortunately, the episode is a complete pass. Projections Holodeck malfunction. Elogium Kes and Neelix may or may not have a baby. No redeeming quality here. Non Sequitur Harry Kim is again shunted to an alternate reality. This episode is pretty good except for Tom Paris' completely nonsense handheld "personal transporter". He might as well have a wormhole belt. Watchable, interesting. Twisted Voyager get's so distorted, it's as if the set crew moved the sets around!

Parturition Paris and Neelix fight over Kes. As if that weren't bad enough, they also find a baby. Unfit for human consumption, avoid at all costs. Persistence of Vision Holodeck Malfunction. Reset Button. Tattoo Chakotay episode.

Indian mysticism. Cold Fire Kes episode. End of the Caretaker story. This is the one where she impregnates herself. Resistance The crew does irrelevant things on an irrelevant planet. Not atrocious, but no reason to watch. Prototype Robots trick Torres into building more of them. Darn those robots! Watchable, but not terribly interesting.

Alliances Voyager steals an episode of Stargate and replays it almost line for line. Aliens who suck more than the Kazon are revealed. Threshold Going faster than warp 10 causes Paris and Janeway to turn into salamanders and have babies together. Absolutely the worst episode of the Star Trek franchise ever produced to date. It's so bad that the guy who wrote it even admitted it was his worst work.

It is unfit to be watched by anyone, and may God have mercy on your soul. Meld The episode that shows why Vulcans shouldn't mind meld with serial killers. Watchable and suprisingly interesting, but you'll solve the "mystery" about 10 minutes in. Dreadnought An AI controlled cardassian missile is on course to explode a nearby planet, which it has mistaken for it's target.

A Torres episode. This episode is actually more than watchable.. Death Wish Q is in it. Riker is in it. Beginning of the Q arc. Quinn plotline is mildly interesting. Ultimately unfulfilling, but watchable. Lifesigns A great one-off Doctor character piece with romance element. Watchable, and pretty good. Investigations Neelix is the host of a morning talk show.. Deadlock Duplicate Voyagers occupy the same space. The real Harry Kim dies and is replaced with an alternate from another dimension.

Same for Naomi Wildman. Watchable, and somewhat entertaining. Innocence Tuvok is trapped on a planet. With old people.. I think you know where I'm going here: pass.

The Thaw Squiggy from Laverne and Shirley is the most awful clown you could ever possibly imagine. He's actually worse than Neelix. Awful, do not watch. Tuvix You know how the government is always trying to create super soldiers in the movies? This episode shows you what happens when the transporter combines the annoyance of Neelix with the boredom of Tuvok. The result? The perfectly engineered most annoying character ever created for any Star Trek episode..

This episode is completely awful, and should be locked away for public safety. Just thinking about it gives me the willies, I wish I could unwatch it. There's still hope for you! Avoid at all costs! Resolutions Janeway and Chakotay spend the entire episode thinking about humping each other, but never do.

In Janeway's defense, Chakotay is a meathead. They would make meathead children. You made the right call Chakotay. Basics, Part 1 Displaying extraordinary incompetance, Voyager is captured by the Kazon and the crew is stranded on a matte painting..

I mean a planet. Just barely watchable, and it's a season finale 2 parter, so if that adds weight for you, so be it. Season 3: 1. Basics, Part 2 Last appearance of the Kazon yay! Death of Seska yay! Interesting performance with Suder the serial killer.

They were isolated, deprived of the usual political-military support network that made all other Trek adventures, including Deep Space Nine , so comforting to fans. The story began when the USS Voyager was hurled by an energy wave 70, light-years, to the butt end of the universe. After that, her mission was simplified: aim Earthwards for a year journey home that the crew was unlikely to survive. And that was it. No Starfleet hijinks, no strutting around the galaxy, just or so people stuck together for life.

Voyager often feels less like a continuation of Trek as we know it than a challenge in the form of a question: "So you think you know what Star Trek is? Yes, it's still Star Trek , but the sheer unfamiliarity of the crew's predicament was disorienting. This far end of space is haunted by the violence of war. Mass violence carries more weight here, arguably, than in any other incarnation of Star Trek , and it's no stretch to suggest that the show's tragic attitude toward war comes out of its female-centered perspective.

The episode uses its SF tropes to correct assumptions of female guilt and sexual self-pleasure, specifically the idea that it's impossible for a woman to sleep with a man and not become romantically involved.

This supposedly great age of TV has give us many fascinating artistic innovations, but its representation of women is problematic at best. If you look at most of many of the high watermarks of the last two decades -- shows such as The Sopranos , The Shield , Mad Men , Breaking Bad , Boardwalk Empire , Justified and Sons of Anarchy -- they're all mainly concerned with alpha males struggling to hold onto their privilege during changing times.

That's only a "universal" story if you agree that straight white males really are the universe. In the meantime, the self-determined female leads of Voyager -- and Buffy , and a handful of other unusual genre series -- have been supplanted by strong female characters that aren't really as strong as they seem. Worse, the very abilities and skills that make them singular and interesting come coupled with some hideous psychic deficiency. And so the title character of Nurse Jackie is a pill head.

Homeland 's Carrie Mathison is a bipolar wreck. The reporter Zoe Barnes on House of Cards is a semi-sociopath who sleeps with a powerful man twice her age to get scoops. The female characters on The Newsroom feel like a man's condescending fantasy of how smart professional women acted thirty years ago, only needier.

The Following demands that Claire Matthews either beg her serial killer ex-husband not to gut her, or her alcoholic wreck of an ex-lover to save her. Illness, mental disarray and hormonal imbalance are, of course, the traditional weapons wielded to cut the threat level posted by intelligent, aggressive female heroes.

Flying in the face of that are the women of Voyager. No matter what psychological damage or tragic history they had to overcome, they always were what they were, not what they suffered from. What Trek fans who dislike Voyager are feeling might not actually be hate. This might seem strange at first, but there is an eerily similar pattern between the two shows beyond science fiction tropes like "Monster of the Week. Unpopular, but not entirely inaccurate.

The characters of Voyager always elicit a dramatic response. Either they get a lot of love from the fans and viewers or they put them in the airlock. Neelix is one of those characters, and whether you like him or hate him, it's an unpopular opinion.

Some of the dislikes for Neelix come from his status as Kes' significant other, since he's much older than she is, but that seems to discount his role in freeing her from an oppressive society and her status as an alien who has a limited life span. Others are annoyed that he seems to be conveniently tacked on at the very beginning because Voyager needs some kind of local guide-type theme character in the plot.

Whoa, stand back for the flame war when someone throws this one out. This is one debate in which all Star Trek fans seem to have an opinion, and it's interesting how often Voyager is brought up as a candidate, despite the controversy and even hostility that gets directed at the series. At least it gets left out of the arguments about the films. Choosing Voyager as the best series is unpopular for a number of reasons, mainly pertaining to how it broke out of some ruts the franchise had dug for itself.

The ship was estranged from the Federation and was partly helmed by rebels. Was this even a Star Trek show? If you thought the five-year mission of the Enterprise was neat, then move over for a deep space mission cranked up to The general consensus regarding the character of Chakotay is that he started out good but then fizzled out, only to be used as a punching bag for future villains.

However, there's a healthy segment of the fan base that claims the XO got done dirty, and more than that, he's actually one of the better characters in the show.

Chakotay does have a compelling backstory, not only as one of the Maquis leaders but also as an early colonist. He cant be a total loss since Seven-of-Nine saw something in him eventually. If the original Star Trek series was about a future utopia, then the later decades would naturally swing back to realism. Deep Space 9 and Voyager are often the shows credited with taking Trek to a more visceral level with higher stakes and bigger adventures, and plenty of fans think that Voyager, in particular, didn't go far enough.



0コメント

  • 1000 / 1000